Excuse me, I relies that what they are talking about is important and all that, but what happened to Sergio the Strange and his plan to steal all the worlds important landmarks?
It is actually kind of hard to think of a long running-have their own book team that didn’t have a white male leading it until you remember the X-Men was headed by Storm for at least a decade.
The Authority (headed by Jenny Spark, originally)
Teen Titans (headed/mentored by Cyborg in one of their incarnations)
The Runaways (headed by Nico Minoru by the second season)
Birds of Prey
SHIELD, if they count? (In Nick Fury’s current incarnation)
Suicide Squad (commanded by Amanda Waller)
What I found a tad odd as someone who reads both was how much harder it was to think of Marvel examples than DC ones. I think the Inhumans were led by Medusa at one point after Black Bolt died?
A little research tells me that the Avengers have previously been led by the Janet van Dyne (the Wasp), and by Monica Rambeau (as Captain Marvel). The latter is now co-leading the “Mighty Avengers” team alongside Luke Cage (as Spectrum).
Luke Cage has also led other teams, such as the New Avengers, the Thunderbolts, and, of course, Heroes for Hire. Misty Knight also led heroes for hire at one time, and co-lead a team called the Fearless Defenders for a critically acclaimed but poorly selling short run. And the Thunderbolts had at one time had first Moonstone and then Songbird as field leaders.
So a grudging pass for Marvel, maybe. What’ll be interesting is whether Sam Wilson ends up leading the Avengers now that he’s taken over as Cap.
What I want to know is what would happen if somebody actually called him just ‘Dynamo’?
I’m reminded of these fine people who are really alright – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEeLtqtNvU
The recent disturbance on capitol hill has given me an idea for our hero’s new personal mode of transport: the gyno-copter! Guaranteed to be invisible to radar.
He does. He looks like he’d be great in a comic of his own, but, as always, it’s about pulling down the best and substituting a freakshow with substandard abilities. (Think about who the readers are..).
Then again, don’t know why I’m offended. I come here to cringe at the biased misrepresentation of white men and the backhanded unintentional (contra-intentional?) reinforcement of unhealthy stereotypes anyway, so I get what I deserve.
What can I say? The enormous irony is attractive to me.
a hiring policy of exclusively women and minorities is just as race/sexist as a hiring policy excluding women and minorities….they need at least one token oppressor for equality’s sake.
This is something I agree it, while in the same time I understand what is the intention there. Woman/minority quotas, for example, could be used to give even ground for women/people of minorities, as usually the scales are (usually non-intentionally) skewed for men and majorities’ favor.
I’m not American by myself, but according to what I have heard, in education white people have upper hand compared to for example black people; black people often come from poorer background and therefore cannot afford similar education compared to many white people, which affects their capacity to get to higher education institutes. Therefore, quotas could be used to balance out the handicap that black people have due to their economical background and not due to their intelligence or motivation.
However, there are massive problems with quotas. Firstly, how can you calculate an ideal size for the quota? What about people of minority who don’t have these problems? (Namely, why is it harder time for a poor less-educated white to get in than a rich well-educated black? Well, in this case the quotas should be more about income rather than ethnicity?) And how do quotas affect the preparation of entrance exams? (“Nah, I get in way easier than the white guy here, no stress.”) Or pride about getting in by their own smarts rather than by the quota? (“You’re here because you are black!” “No! I got top scores in the entrance exam! AAARGH!”)
I would rather prefer blurring out the factors that don’t matter. For example, an ideal job application system would keep the applicant’s gender, ethnicity, and appearance hidden (unless they matter somehow, examples below) and concentrate on the person’s merits. This could erase the subconscious, irrational choices based of aforementioned issues, and force the employers to seek issues that actually matter.
***
The only exception for this discrimination I can think of is when limitations/quotas have an actual purpose. For example, there could be quotas in medical institutes for people speaking certain minor languages in order to ensure service in that language. That kind of system exists in my home country Finland for Swedish-speaking minority, albeit there are still grumbles about quotas and that Swedish-speaking people can get into medical institutes much easier than Finnish-speakers (despite that they have no remarkable differences other than language).
I could also understand for example women’s shelters having only female employees, mostly in countries where gender differences are highlighted: therefore, the customers of the shelter could feel safer, especially if they are victims of sex traffic. Not sure where to draw the exact border between acceptance and non-acceptance of male employees, though.
Leave now, Gyno! And ask Black Dynamo and Gay Blaze to join your new team. You do have a lesbian sidekick already and everything else will fall into place soon.
But if you got those three together the universe would demand that you have them walk into a bar. And then the one on the wheelchair would complain ‘hey, I can’t walk!’ Which would start a conversation about disabilities, which would lead to a discussion about the magic of friendship, and Bam! there’s your whole first issue. (Unfortunately, while they were talking about all this the guy who just robbed the bank got away.)
Hey, saw your comment about the busted laptop monitor.
FYI – If the laptop has the right ports in the back, you should be able to hook it up to a computer monitor and use it that way. Not necessarily a long term fix, but might work as a temporary workaround if you own/can get a spare computer monitor.
With the understanding that timelines are a little bit wibbly-wobbly, we can see one possibilty of what happens when she tries in the SuperBitch comic titled “Avengers” http://superbitch.com
Sadly I half wish she would get one guy to apply on the grounds. “I don’t want to be with those morons.” But I also sense a follow up comic where that same guy after each encounter gets mobbed by the press because they assume he is in charge.
Just an unrelated nugget of gold, in case no one else mentioned it already:
Got me a new PC, so I had to google gynostar…upon which google asked me wether I actually meant “gay star”.
That actually feels very close to being ironic.
And now Dave Barack (Grrl Power) has weighed in with an excellent rendition of Maxima, Gynostar, and SuperBitch encountering a drunk (nevermind how unlikely that is) Deadpool, as a vote incentive for his comic. Worth throwing him a vote to see! http://topwebcomics.com/vote/11940/default.aspx
Deadpool’s healing factor might make him immune to intoxication, but acting like a drunken lech to strange women in superhero costumes is totally in character for him.
What would they be wearing then? I think that seeing them undress(ed), even as a ‘you’re never getting it” tease, is a thrill he doesn’t deserve, and I suspect the ladies would agree. Their outfits on him? His response would be “Worth it!”
Look up “307 Ale” (a song by Tom Smith), you’ll understand why I think even he (and Wolvie, who has a similar situation with alcohol) would be subject to it…
I’d recommend going international for this team there’s a superhero named Rape-Man in Japan and a homosexual/transsexual Amazon in the Philippines named Zsazsa Zaturnnah (P.S. I’m not making this up, just google them)
Sheesh, what’s it to you, Captain TryingTooHard? Just kick her off the team so you get back to the vital task of *sitting around not battling supervillains*! You sure you’re not really Die Fledermaus?
Sexist to the very end.
Well, clueless to the very end anyway.
Some people are so stupid, the only thing you can do to defeat them is go.
Go and don’t try to argue with them.
To cite a acciantance: “Never argue with stupid people. They drag you down on thier niveau and beat you with exeperience.”
Never argue with idiots. They are too stupid to realize they have already lost.
Excuse me, I relies that what they are talking about is important and all that, but what happened to Sergio the Strange and his plan to steal all the worlds important landmarks?
Please refer to Michael’s comment above. The end is now nearer. So to speak…
It was resolved between panels.
Wouldn’t ‘Alien’ by a minority for not!supes there?
It is actually kind of hard to think of a long running-have their own book team that didn’t have a white male leading it until you remember the X-Men was headed by Storm for at least a decade.
*Bump*
Storm is a badass.
Hmm…
The Authority (headed by Jenny Spark, originally)
Teen Titans (headed/mentored by Cyborg in one of their incarnations)
The Runaways (headed by Nico Minoru by the second season)
Birds of Prey
SHIELD, if they count? (In Nick Fury’s current incarnation)
Suicide Squad (commanded by Amanda Waller)
That’s about all that I can think of :S
Ok, harder for some than others. But good examples.
What I found a tad odd as someone who reads both was how much harder it was to think of Marvel examples than DC ones. I think the Inhumans were led by Medusa at one point after Black Bolt died?
A little research tells me that the Avengers have previously been led by the Janet van Dyne (the Wasp), and by Monica Rambeau (as Captain Marvel). The latter is now co-leading the “Mighty Avengers” team alongside Luke Cage (as Spectrum).
Luke Cage has also led other teams, such as the New Avengers, the Thunderbolts, and, of course, Heroes for Hire. Misty Knight also led heroes for hire at one time, and co-lead a team called the Fearless Defenders for a critically acclaimed but poorly selling short run. And the Thunderbolts had at one time had first Moonstone and then Songbird as field leaders.
So a grudging pass for Marvel, maybe. What’ll be interesting is whether Sam Wilson ends up leading the Avengers now that he’s taken over as Cap.
Samuel L. Jackson should lead more super-teams/shadowy police organizations.
SHIELD was also run by Maria Hil for a while
Captain Marvel(Monica Rambeau)also Lead NextWave.
and Zatanna ran JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK
Wasn’t Hill portrayed as incompetent and borderline corrupt when Nick Fury wasn’t around to give her orders?
The New Avengers was headed by Luke Cage. Now it is headed by Cpatain America (who is also Black). Just adding that to the list.
The Avengers headed by the Wasp for sometime. The LSH has had several female and/or non-white leaders.
Does Brainiac 5 count as a POC? Yeah, he’s green, but he’s an alien. Should there be a different usage for non-white aliens?
Regular Person, formerly known as Major Roughage, would be an excellent addition to her team.
Ah, so he was known as Major Roughage before the face-turn. Is that it?
I’d hate to think about what his super powers might be.
Gyno-Star and Black Dymano … FTW!
“It’s just ‘Dynamo’.”
;D
What I want to know is what would happen if somebody actually called him just ‘Dynamo’?
I’m reminded of these fine people who are really alright – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEeLtqtNvU
Gynamo! & Friends
*gets weird stares from Native Americans*
The recent disturbance on capitol hill has given me an idea for our hero’s new personal mode of transport: the gyno-copter! Guaranteed to be invisible to radar.
“Yeah, well… I’m gonna go build my own theme park, with blackjack and hookers.”
I’m sorry, but that’s what went through my head. But it’s a great idea 🙂
Mr. Excellent Rules!
He does. He looks like he’d be great in a comic of his own, but, as always, it’s about pulling down the best and substituting a freakshow with substandard abilities. (Think about who the readers are..).
And *this* is the guy who thought he could lead a sensitivity training seminar??? Oy-vey.
I love the mind-blown look on his face in the last panel.
Of course he thought he could lead a sensitivity seminar – like he said, he’s a straight why guy. They think they can (and should) lead everything.
*straight white guy glower*
Then again, don’t know why I’m offended. I come here to cringe at the biased misrepresentation of white men and the backhanded unintentional (contra-intentional?) reinforcement of unhealthy stereotypes anyway, so I get what I deserve.
What can I say? The enormous irony is attractive to me.
Wow. I wanna strangle him with his cape. Holy Hell is he obnoxious.
Clearly, his superpowers include supermansplaining.
Reminds me of this little nugget: http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/equally.asp
If Gyno-Star does found her own group, Mr. Dynamo might just be interested in joining…
a hiring policy of exclusively women and minorities is just as race/sexist as a hiring policy excluding women and minorities….they need at least one token oppressor for equality’s sake.
This is something I agree it, while in the same time I understand what is the intention there. Woman/minority quotas, for example, could be used to give even ground for women/people of minorities, as usually the scales are (usually non-intentionally) skewed for men and majorities’ favor.
I’m not American by myself, but according to what I have heard, in education white people have upper hand compared to for example black people; black people often come from poorer background and therefore cannot afford similar education compared to many white people, which affects their capacity to get to higher education institutes. Therefore, quotas could be used to balance out the handicap that black people have due to their economical background and not due to their intelligence or motivation.
However, there are massive problems with quotas. Firstly, how can you calculate an ideal size for the quota? What about people of minority who don’t have these problems? (Namely, why is it harder time for a poor less-educated white to get in than a rich well-educated black? Well, in this case the quotas should be more about income rather than ethnicity?) And how do quotas affect the preparation of entrance exams? (“Nah, I get in way easier than the white guy here, no stress.”) Or pride about getting in by their own smarts rather than by the quota? (“You’re here because you are black!” “No! I got top scores in the entrance exam! AAARGH!”)
I would rather prefer blurring out the factors that don’t matter. For example, an ideal job application system would keep the applicant’s gender, ethnicity, and appearance hidden (unless they matter somehow, examples below) and concentrate on the person’s merits. This could erase the subconscious, irrational choices based of aforementioned issues, and force the employers to seek issues that actually matter.
***
The only exception for this discrimination I can think of is when limitations/quotas have an actual purpose. For example, there could be quotas in medical institutes for people speaking certain minor languages in order to ensure service in that language. That kind of system exists in my home country Finland for Swedish-speaking minority, albeit there are still grumbles about quotas and that Swedish-speaking people can get into medical institutes much easier than Finnish-speakers (despite that they have no remarkable differences other than language).
I could also understand for example women’s shelters having only female employees, mostly in countries where gender differences are highlighted: therefore, the customers of the shelter could feel safer, especially if they are victims of sex traffic. Not sure where to draw the exact border between acceptance and non-acceptance of male employees, though.
Leave now, Gyno! And ask Black Dynamo and Gay Blaze to join your new team. You do have a lesbian sidekick already and everything else will fall into place soon.
Then she’ll just need a transgendered guy in a wheelchair, a martian, and a jew.
But if you got those three together the universe would demand that you have them walk into a bar. And then the one on the wheelchair would complain ‘hey, I can’t walk!’ Which would start a conversation about disabilities, which would lead to a discussion about the magic of friendship, and Bam! there’s your whole first issue. (Unfortunately, while they were talking about all this the guy who just robbed the bank got away.)
This reads like a real conversation, one you may have actually had. I’m so sorry.
Hey, saw your comment about the busted laptop monitor.
FYI – If the laptop has the right ports in the back, you should be able to hook it up to a computer monitor and use it that way. Not necessarily a long term fix, but might work as a temporary workaround if you own/can get a spare computer monitor.
Thanks for the advice. I do have it hooked up to a monitor and it’s working fine. Not a suitable long term solution but it’s something.
Saturn Girl and Dream Girl both ran the Legion at points, to give DC a nod.
Although I find it somewhat amusing that, should Gyno-Star form her own team, the leader of it would be a white, straight female.
Well, one step at a time. She’s female, but otherwise normal, so she won’t scare people too much!
*gets flashbacks of Guardians of the Galaxy* D:
With the understanding that timelines are a little bit wibbly-wobbly, we can see one possibilty of what happens when she tries in the SuperBitch comic titled “Avengers” http://superbitch.com
SORRY – http://superbitchcomic.com
Sadly I half wish she would get one guy to apply on the grounds. “I don’t want to be with those morons.” But I also sense a follow up comic where that same guy after each encounter gets mobbed by the press because they assume he is in charge.
If I had superpowers I’d totally apply.
Just an unrelated nugget of gold, in case no one else mentioned it already:
Got me a new PC, so I had to google gynostar…upon which google asked me wether I actually meant “gay star”.
That actually feels very close to being ironic.
And now Dave Barack (Grrl Power) has weighed in with an excellent rendition of Maxima, Gynostar, and SuperBitch encountering a drunk (nevermind how unlikely that is) Deadpool, as a vote incentive for his comic. Worth throwing him a vote to see! http://topwebcomics.com/vote/11940/default.aspx
Maybe Deadpool got some “307 Ale”?
Deadpool’s healing factor might make him immune to intoxication, but acting like a drunken lech to strange women in superhero costumes is totally in character for him.
So would the next panel being HIM wearing their outfits.
What would they be wearing then? I think that seeing them undress(ed), even as a ‘you’re never getting it” tease, is a thrill he doesn’t deserve, and I suspect the ladies would agree. Their outfits on him? His response would be “Worth it!”
Look up “307 Ale” (a song by Tom Smith), you’ll understand why I think even he (and Wolvie, who has a similar situation with alcohol) would be subject to it…
I’m kind of laughing & crying at the same time, I think.
Hahahahahaha! This is awesome!
I’d recommend going international for this team there’s a superhero named Rape-Man in Japan and a homosexual/transsexual Amazon in the Philippines named Zsazsa Zaturnnah (P.S. I’m not making this up, just google them)
Sheesh, what’s it to you, Captain TryingTooHard? Just kick her off the team so you get back to the vital task of *sitting around not battling supervillains*! You sure you’re not really Die Fledermaus?